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salmo Alevin
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, you're 100% correct.... They don't work !!!!
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Frogpoop Adult
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 98
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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well if those pics are any indication of them not working I cant wait to fail with mine...  |
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Tripper Lunker
Joined: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 247 Location: Dundas, Ontario
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| salmo wrote: | Nope, you're 100% correct.... They don't work !!!!
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Beautiful! |
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Kodey1 Adult
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Owen Sound,Ontario,Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Do you run them with a bare hook or with bags???
Or both???
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salmo Alevin
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: beads |
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ALL OF THE ABOVE, +
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Cornbread Lunker
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 662 Location: RockyRiver,Ohio
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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How's the hook up rate with the bead not pegged? Just slipping it on to the lead and letting it sit at the hook?
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GT Smolt
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 41 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: beads |
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| salmo wrote: | ALL OF THE ABOVE, +
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Hey, I have one of those flys.  |
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steelheadsniper Adult
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 62
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Frogpoop wrote: | well if those pics are any indication of them not working I cant wait to fail with mine...  |
your gettin some beads to try?? If their legal I want some.... |
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tod Alevin
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 19 Location: keuka lake
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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The hook up rate is better with them pegged or surgeons knotted 2" above hook for 2 reasons;
1-If the fish are cautious and not very aggressive they will quickly eject the bead because it is hard. When they do this hydrodynamics actually will swing the bare hook into the mouth if 2-3" seperates bead and hook. If there is no lead this would be a missed strike
2-If the fish are being aggressive and pounding the bead that 2-3" lead between bead and hook will allow hook to catch before being swallowed with bead. That makes for a much better survival rate.
As a result it is better for hooksets and survival rates |
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Cornbread Lunker
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 662 Location: RockyRiver,Ohio
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| tod wrote: | The hook up rate is better with them pegged or surgeons knotted 2" above hook for 2 reasons;
1-If the fish are cautious and not very aggressive they will quickly eject the bead because it is hard. When they do this hydrodynamics actually will swing the bare hook into the mouth if 2-3" seperates bead and hook. If there is no lead this would be a missed strike
2-If the fish are being aggressive and pounding the bead that 2-3" lead between bead and hook will allow hook to catch before being swallowed with bead. That makes for a much better survival rate.
As a result it is better for hooksets and survival rates |
Thank you, I may just have to see for myself. Beads have gotten a bad rap, however I like to make my decisions based on experience. Having looked at them I have to ask what size? Do I go bigger for "a tasty treat" or smaller for "hey it's an egg" I am guessing that color choice is the same as with sacks or yarn?
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Bill Shearer Adult
Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 84 Location: Hamilton Ontario
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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CB
I use the 6mm size which is closer to the steelhead egg size. About the only time I use the beads is when the fish start to get 'picky', and finesse is the only way to get them to hit.
Regarding colour choices, take a look at the 'how to' page on the website.
There is a 'steelhead selection' box that although pricey, has a bunch of good colours in it.
It's like the colours of mesh we tie the roe in, they get what we buy .
Regarding the bad rap
Reefers use a lot of the same equipment sportsmen do. It is their 'intent' and actions which are illegal |
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Frogpoop Adult
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 98
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| steelheadsniper wrote: | | Frogpoop wrote: | well if those pics are any indication of them not working I cant wait to fail with mine...  |
your gettin some beads to try?? If their legal I want some.... |
yep yep ordered them the other day.. |
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tod Alevin
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 19 Location: keuka lake
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| I like beads in clear water During early fall I use 8mm beads which are the size of chinook eggs and In late fall and spring I use 6mm beads about the size of trout eggs. |
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DRIFTER_016 Lunker
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 136 Location: Yellowknife, NWT
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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All those pictures of trout with beads are photoshopped!!!! Beads don't work !!!!!
Well ocasionally they do.....hehehehe
I use mainly 6 and 8 mm in orange or red shades over painted with flat white paint or Snowflake Frost Nail Polish. When bottom bouncing I use 10 mm beads and my favorite steelie bead is a 12mm dark red/Snowflake Frost bad boy!!!  |
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Ditchrat Lunker
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 116 Location: canadensis, PA (on the Brodhead)
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Kodey1 wrote: | Hi,
Or both???
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Yep |
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