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SIMMO010
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Fishing British Columbia steelhead Reply with quote

My partner and I are beginning to plan a fishing trip to British Columbia to chase steelhead. The Skeena,Babine,and Thompson have surfaced as options. We would appreciate any thoughts, suggestions,or recommendations on any aspects of this project. Thanks!
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PEte
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of ideas are you looking for?

If its your first time out west the Skeena would be the place to start. Lots of fish and they come readily to just about anything you throw at them.

PEte
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SIMMO010
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:41 am    Post subject: Fishing British Columbia steelhead Reply with quote

Thanks Pete !
We are just beginning to think thru / plan. We’ll have two weeks to fish in B.C. We haven’t fished for steelhead in BC. We have Midwest Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan experience- with yarn flies and driftfishing with mono and, center pin float. Equipment, we should be able to cover.However, we be on a LIMITED BUDGET. Driving from Minnesota is a option. Guide cost, lodging, river access,wadeability, best time of the year to fish are the essential starting points.

Thanks for your response.
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PEte
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With no prior experience I would say that the Skeena during October is probably your best bet. With only 2 weeks flying out might be a better option. Its a 2 day drive to the Skeena, and that's driving non-stop with 2 drivers.

You may want to hook-up with a guide for a few days to get things figured out. After that you should be able to get into fish on your own. Even years generally see a lot more fish entering the Skeena, so your timing would be good.

As far as lodging there are lots of motel and/or lodges up that way. Most guys will base their trips out of Smithers, Hazelton or Terrace. You can also camp all over the place if you are going for a budget trip.

As for wading.... most of them you can't cross under normal to high flow, but will want to do some wading to get yourself into position.

Since you are looking to do this cheaply I should mention that all the water you will be fishing is classified. Expect to spend 400-600 dollars in licence fees for 2 weeks of classified waters fishing.

PEte
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SIMMO010
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Those license fees are high! Are there any recommendations for the Vancouver Island/ South B.C.?
Time frame for the trip may expand to do both areas. Wishful thinking perhaps? What’s the deal on the even numbered year’s run?
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PEte
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SIMMO010 wrote:
Wow! Those license fees are high!


Yes they are, but you want to fish some of the best summer run steelhead rivers on the planet. Try getting a couple weeks on a PRIME atlantic salmon beat for 400-600 dollars. Most atlantic salmon river in NA can't even be fished without a guide (150-400 a day!)

SIMMO010 wrote:
Are there any recommendations for the Vancouver Island/ South B.C.? Time frame for the trip may expand to do both areas. Wishful thinking perhaps?


I would probably call you crazy if you left the Skeena area to chase any of the dwindling populations of summer runs in the lower mainland and Van Island. Maybe if you have over a month you might want to look elsewhere, but the Skeena area is huge and could keep you busy for years.

You could spend a month on many of the major tributaries without seeing all the water.

SIMMO010 wrote:
What’s the deal on the even numbered year’s run?


Good question. I haven't seen a good study directed specifically towards the Skeena, but it may be due to the inability of spawning/nursery tributaries to produce back to back bumper crops. The juveniles stay for 2 years, so a yearclass born the year after a strong yearclass may have problem competing with their cousins that are already 1 year older and much larger.

PEte


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SIMMO010
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Fishing British Columbia steelhead Reply with quote

Thanks ! Your advice makes sense to me. Skeena hear we come! As we get along in our planning there will other questions/requests. Thanks again.
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SIMMO010
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pete, I am back 7 months to go before my trip to the Skeena(Oct-1-14). Currently, the plan is to split the two weeks between Smithers, New Hazelton, and Terrace. We are Minnesota mono-drift fishers-yarn, nymph, and spawn. We are aware of the various restrictions i.e. bait, barb less hooks ,and no kill.
We are in need of specific assistance in finding house keeping accommodations for two couples. As well as one day guide service for each of the three locations. Also your suggestions for equipment to cover the bases-rods, reels line, flies, lures etc, and fishing strategy, techniques will be greatly appreciated.
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superior steel
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: hmmmmmmmmmmm Reply with quote

so practically a guide to fishing Skeena Tributary Summer Run Steelhead............................. tough question to answer......I have also been working on that vary same question for the past year or so, good luck.......the research is half the fun Shocked
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bt
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best advice [if you're not planning to camp] is to book your accomodations ASAP. Most decent places up there are booked a year[s] in advance during prime time [Sept/Oct]. If you're looking for some local help [with all your requests], I've had excellent experiences with Justin or Noel Gyger of NorthWest Guides [in Terrace]. They mostly focus on the bottom end Skeens tribs [Kalum, Copper] and the Naas, but can help you out with contacts upstream in Hazelton/Smithers, too. I've also found the local Chamber of Commerce [for each town] up there very helpful - you can often find private weekly rentals of cabins, as most other places are either motels or full-service lodges.
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steeliefreak
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BT or anyone else, I was wondering if you could help me out with some gear recommendations? I am currently planning a trip to fish the Skeena system as well, I am also trying to gather my gear at this time. I am looking at different bait casters and rods at the moment for pitching spinners and spoons. How much line capacity and how beefy of a rod would you recommend for the main stem Skeena? Looking at maybe a late August trip for lower Skeena fishing, and probably a trip in October for the upper tribs.

I was looking at the Abu Record rcn 61, but not sure if I would need the high capacity model. As for a rod, I have been looking at the new rainshadow xst 1264 (10-17lb) or the Sage CT2106 or 3106. Am I close?

Thanks for any help!
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bt
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the big river itself [and it is "big"], a lot of the local "gear fishing" equipment resembles stand-up tuna outfits ....... broomsticks and winches with a ton of line capacity. Of course, a lot of these folks want to put salmon in the freezer, so like folks looking for dinner anywhere, they often go to extremes...

That being said, you're right on the money with your selections for hardware fishing. I run a GL3 1362 with a Calcutta 400 [w/17 lb.] and have never felt under-gunned with Springs to 35 lb., but again, I haven't been fortunate enough to hook a 50 lb. + one either. You should see lots of Cohos in late August, but the famous Skeena "Big Northern" strain don't warrant much down-sizing in the equipment. Although, Chinooks start very early there, as early as March on some tribs like the Kalum. In August, check out a trip to Kitimat too.

Also, have a look at the Frontier 1343, my budddy fishes one, very nice for the money. As for reels, it seems every second one up there is an Abu 6500 - if that tells you something.
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SIMMO010
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bt, thanks for your responses ! I found your advice very helpful! Your guide suggestions of the Gygers of NorthWest Guides,
particularly helpful as well as the equipment recommendations to steeliefreak. Superior steel, I am enjoying the pursuit! Thanks all for your responses. Keep it coming.
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PEte
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SIMMO010 wrote:
Hi Pete, I am back 7 months to go before my trip to the Skeena(Oct-1-14). Currently, the plan is to split the two weeks between Smithers, New Hazelton, and Terrace. We are Minnesota mono-drift fishers-yarn, nymph, and spawn. We are aware of the various restrictions i.e. bait, barb less hooks ,and no kill.
We are in need of specific assistance in finding house keeping accommodations for two couples. As well as one day guide service for each of the three locations. Also your suggestions for equipment to cover the bases-rods, reels line, flies, lures etc, and fishing strategy, techniques will be greatly appreciated.


Most of my time up there has been camping, so I don't have a lot of personal experience with places to stay. However, in Terrace I have stayed at the Copper River Motel and Rainbow motel (I think that was its name). Both were clean and decently price, but I did prefer the first. Make sure you take everything and anything to do with yarn flies. The steelhead and trout can't keep off of them!

Steeliefreak,
My preference for a spoon rod for up there would be a Calcutta 400 (I've had some bad experience with the Abu's.. probably just me though) and the Sage 2106 you mentioned. Unless you rent a jet, or hire someone to drop you off I think you'll find that fishing the mainstem can be tough. Although... there are some productive spots at the mouth of tribs that I can help you out with.

PEte
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